PIRACY! fight back

smithy953! · Post by **smithy953!** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:16 pm

Ok I don’t know about everyone else but every now and then when trading in an outer system a rouge player will start to attack these aren’t really pirates and are more annoying than threatening. so I thought we should teach them a lesson and destroy them (maybe get their bounty too) basically if you want to join this agreement/alliance where if a trader is attacked he/she can simply say where they are and who is attacking and if some one is available they will come and help so if you would like to join and help simply go into space and when on the chat option 'main' put;

?setchat stop piracy

and their should be people their and to check who is online put

?chat

Ok good look and trade well

May the economy be with you!

Post by **Fooli** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:35 pm

Well, whatever works, but that's probably the point of the trader's guild chat channel (assuming it's working at the moment).

Anyway, yeh... go give those pirates a good kicking :)

Oh pirates, yes they rob i
Took i cargo from me merchant ship
(etc)
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liolepro · Post by **liolepro** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:16 am

piracy is funny

but can someone explain whats this thing with bounty and so on?

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:22 am

bounty is like a penalty and reward system.

if a player blows up an innocent player, they will recieve a bounty as a penalty.
if a player blows up a player with a bounty, then they recieve cash from the player equal to the amount of the bounty as a reward.

fhko · Post by **fhko** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:06 pm

smithy be aware that the pirates themselves will probably also join that chat channel to listen in on if someone is being attacked and where so they can try to get a piece of the cargo...I know I would:-)

smithy953! · Post by **smithy953!** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:02 pm

ahh this is verry true but their should be more traders than pirates plus the pirates will probly end up killen each other oh n the traders chat guild is good bt nt manny ppl use it

liolepro · Post by **liolepro** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:09 pm

Yes but there are several problems :
first there isnt enough active players. Someone who stay aware of what's happening in his area isnt like most of those guys that make their own little trade and who will never go by themselves in the heart of the fight.
Second it is too easy to escape when a pirate is chasing u. U can see him coming and be ready for fight or escape when he' next to u. And there isnt any really good weapons (laser is useless when ur target is moving everywhere (=isnt noob)).
Honestly if u want to go piracy, dont do it alone, its 4 x easier if u are with a friend with his own piracy ship (a simple xfighter is enough).

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:47 pm

that, i believe, was mits main goal with piracy.
that it would take multiple ships to effectivly bring down other ships instead of it being a solo job.

liolepro · Post by **liolepro** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:35 pm

yes but this cant exist while there isnt any trade between ships. Who win the stolen cargo, if u cant share it?

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:16 pm

when your ship gets blown up, the cargo floats in space for a while. any of the piraters can fly over it to pick it up

kb32a · Post by **kb32a** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:29 pm

Has this been implemented yet? I thought the cargo automatically gets transfered to the pirates cargo hold.

smithy953! · Post by **smithy953!** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:31 am

yes cargo automaticly goes to the killers cargo hold hmmm the killer should chose what to and not to take

Malkiah · Post by **Malkiah** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:37 am

dude i dont do anything but come up out of nowhere, zing, good bye, and Im gone, screw listening, approaching, ect. its how it has to be done.

markxxx420 · Post by **markxxx420** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:35 am

dont hit me, i have a pirate ship, but no bounty

matthew · Post by **matthew** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:59 am

well to give you all some fair warning when piracy works better i plan on killin some people

but right now i am a trader

kb32a · Post by **kb32a** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:38 am

Since I have become bored of trading for a couple hours a day, I have jumped to piracy to keep myself entertained. During my first day as a pirate I have noticed a couple of things and will add a few suggestions.
1. I agree 100% with Liolepro...The weapons are not yet effective enough. Even now when countermeasures are not working It is almost impossible to kill anyone. Took me 11 missiles and much to much time to take 4000cr from an unsuspecting newb in a transport ( mean huh?

2. Lasers do some damage but not enough. With shields down it takes 40-60 hits with a laser( estimation ) to kill someone. Would be nice to lower that number down to 20-40 depending on the ships. Would make lasers, shield, and countermeasures more important.
3. Several times today I was a second away from taking 42 computers away from someone I will leave unnamed. Several times today a second before I took 42 computers from unnamed he quit only to come back 3 seconds later unharmed. Needless to say I was frustrated. ( does small mode have the same effect? ) Also I'm fairly sure i killed someone and I didn't receive my 30 slaves as a reward. Not completely sure I killed him but something to look into.
4. Before someone says anything about me being one sided, these weapon changes would also help traders fight off pirates/ groups of pirates. I think all of this would make a balance between traders and pirates.
5. With this being said, piracy is working good enough right now to fear me

. Although I've only made 4500cr in a day and a half with a few more breaks and a few less quitters that could have easily been 200,000cr. Point being..Watch your back.

P.S. I know most of this has been already mentioned and is on the TDL and the game gods are busy with more important things ( real life ). These are just a few pointers and suggestions for the future.

Post by **Fooli** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:20 am

kb32a wrote:During my first day as a pirate I have noticed a couple of things and will add a few suggestions.

I wonder, did they take you round the pirate's office to meet the guy from accounts and show you where the photocopier is? :]

kb32a wrote: 1. I agree 100% with Liolepro...The weapons are not yet effective enough.

Yeh, as we were discussing... I think it might need some slight balancing. The original idea was to encourage people to group together to act as pirates (or to protect trade ships) and that's probably still the best bet, gameplay-wise, but... at the moment there aren't so many people flying about. And it probably should be possible to work as a (han) solo pirate.

kb32a wrote:Several times today a second before I took 42 computers from unnamed he quit only to come back 3 seconds later unharmed.

This might still be work-in-progress. I'm pretty sure the idea is, that if someone quits while under attack, they automatically lose the fight.

kb32a wrote:4. Before someone says anything about me being one sided, these weapon changes would also help traders fight off pirates/ groups of pirates. I think all of this would make a balance between traders and pirates.

...and one of the most important additions will be working police forces (AI, or at least Bad Intelligence).

kb32a wrote: 5. With this being said, piracy is working good enough right now to fear me :).

Bizarrely enough, it's probably quite a useful service you're providing, in a testing-the-gameplay kind of way, so thanks. But if I see you you're dead :p

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kb32a · Post by **kb32a** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:50 am

Another strategy to "escape" from pirates seems to be hitting the esc button while in space. The trader " dissapears" and goes to the start menu only to come back again a few seconds later. This should also count as a automatic loss of cargo. From my experience the pirates seem to be more honest then the traders:) Always trying to find a way to cheat themselves out a a major loss:)

Ludo · Post by **Ludo** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:23 pm

Isnt that true of real life though:)

weedzillah · Post by **weedzillah** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:49 pm

i pirate sometimes u would only be able to take me out ina group otherwsie i could use bug and log in and out haha plus i dont attack people ino smithy u kiled me befor when i started of so u kinda pirate lol nvm i forgive u cya around people