Spawn killing

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:40 pm

on a world like battlezone is there a way we can have a anti camp system so people cant kill people before they spawn for say 20secs?

phoenix

qwerty · Post by **qwerty** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:48 pm

The spawn area is no weapons zone, isn't it?

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:17 pm

nope, i was getting killed and couldnt spawn cus of some1 in a jeep shooting me over and over for like 5mins until i quit

phoenix

the thibz · Post by **the thibz** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:46 pm

these people don't know that only building destroying give point to the team... and that people killing doesn't provide any kudos (only a few s)

qwerty · Post by **qwerty** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:08 pm

the thibz wrote:these people don't know that only building destroying give point to the team... and that people killing doesn't provide any kudos (only a few s)

Well destroying a few buildings then spawn killing does the trick

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:30 pm

its a pain when u cant do anything to stop it and the other guy gets loads of points

phoenix

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:43 pm

you could just:

1. Go into small mode by hitting F1. when in small mode, you wont respawn and they will eventually give up

or

2. Leave the island and play elsewhere. simple, easy, effective. and it sure beats getting angrey, and you can't polay anyway while being spawn killed, so you might as well go somewhere you can play.

Malkiah · Post by **Malkiah** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:34 am

zar thats not very friendly to say, spawn killing isnt fair to someone new, maybe me and goomba getting spawn killed, besides you freaks would love that wouldnt yuh

hmmm, time to slaughter some more on planitia.

phoenixman wrote:on a world like battlezone is there a way we can have a anti camp system so people cant kill people before they spawn for say 20secs?

phoenix

give me the names of these rodents and ill see what death i can arrange

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:08 pm

i will try to get u some names

phoenix

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:43 pm

malk its a simple solution. fair or not, it solves the problem without getting angrey at the person, i tell anybody that gets spawn killed to do that, it doesen't matter WHO is getting spawn killed, even if its you and goomba, even if its me.

makes sense doesen't it? if your gonna spend the time to complain about it, why not also stop the person from doing it instead of just sitting around watching and complaining?

wow. F1. one simple keystroke. can't do anything while getting spawn killed anyway, so might as well do that so it stops faster and they waste thier weapons. you can still chat too.

*me deletes the off-topic posts and combines the multi-posts.
if you've been paying attention at all, you'd see that the hard drive in my pc went bad so i had to install another one. thats why your server has been down.

Malkiah · Post by **Malkiah** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:11 pm

wow zar, take it easy bro, jesus can a bro get sarcastic for once? calm down and take a breath, i didnt mean it in the way you took it.

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:59 pm

Well, the problem is that people can still take damage while in safe areas when people outside those areas are firing into them. No, it's not much of an issue on Battlezone, but how about more competitive worlds like reina roja where once a person dies they lose everything? This means that safe areas really don't mean anything in the long run.

The heart of the matter is that killing people while they're in a "safe" area is bug abuse, and should be handled with a ban. And something in the coding should be changed so that death via combat isn't possible while in those areas. Either make the areas recover combat damage at a reasonably fast rate, or make it so that you can't take any damage while in those areas.

Post by **Magicfinger** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:09 pm

ok enough is enough i have deleted so many posts from these forums over the last week. personal attacks on other players will not be tolerated here. there is nothing wrong with the post that vagrant has just made and the posts that i have removed where not keeping within the forum rules.

If this behaviour continues on the site i will be issuing 7 day bans from the website for the people making these posts! you know who you are...

a website ban will also prevent you from recieving any game updates etc.. also.

Post by **Fooli** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:24 pm

Vagrant wrote:Well, the problem is that people can still take damage while in safe areas when people outside those areas are firing into them. No, it's not much of an issue on Battlezone, but how about more competitive worlds like reina roja where once a person dies they lose everything? This means that safe areas really don't mean anything in the long run.

The heart of the matter is that killing people while they're in a "safe" area is bug abuse, and should be handled with a ban. And something in the coding should be changed so that death via combat isn't possible while in those areas. Either make the areas recover combat damage at a reasonably fast rate, or make it so that you can't take any damage while in those areas.

Do we know for sure this is a bug? There's no-one around for me to test it with, but it could equally be a settings thing. I don't have Battlezone powers at the moment, so I can't check the surface properties, but the safe zones are certainly working as far as not being able to fire out of them... conversely they're supposed to stop you taking damage when people are firing into them. Ie, they function as safe zones :) They always used to work... there were still some camping issues on Battlezone with lame people hanging around outside the safe areas, which is more of a gameplay issue than anything (and with a few handy team mates, a bit of op presence (yeh yeh I know) and prolly a lil bit of redesign from mit, is easily solvable).

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zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:36 pm

i think splash damage still has an effect on players in safe zones doesen't it? if so, then its just an issue with the islands Explosion Damage setting, not a bug, unless splash damage was already programmed to not hurt players in safe zones and it still does.

on a side note, setting a respawn time wont really effect anything. from all the killing i've ever seen since first joining this game, setting a respawn time will only make the spawn killings happen slower. i.e., it'll be a spawn kill once every 20 secs instead of once every second.

in fact, the only way i can think of to actually make spawn killing hard would be to program something that says you can't kill the same player twice in a row like this idea: http://www.theuniversal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1997

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:39 pm

would a solution be sometihng that makes some be Invunerable for say 20seconds be a solution ? or some "forcefield thing" around the area so people cant shoot into it?
the problem i have with it is i dont want to quit when im having fun,y should i quit because someone wants to camp my spawn, that wouldnt solve anything.

phoenix

ps. i dont think i have broken any rules with this post.

Malkiah · Post by **Malkiah** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:47 am

now if mit made a forcefield around it, then he would have to create a gun with teleporting bullets to be fair

phoenixman · Post by **phoenixman** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:05 pm

u cant shoot out or in that would be fair

Malkiah · Post by **Malkiah** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:40 pm

i know i know i was just being a smart a**, someone once played the imagination game with me, he replied with a force field, i replied with a gun w/ teleporting bullets, and that was that :p

GK8000 · Post by **GK8000** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:55 pm

I've noticed people spawning outside the actual safezone in battlezone lately, making them susceptible to campers... or I wonder if this is just me?