Im not really sure this game is worth playing anymore, i loved playing on it before, but now as an island owner, things are aweful, you have more bugs than you can poke a stick at, the main one that is bugging the crap outta me is :
THE MAP DOESNT SAVE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE ISLAND!! - I make a tonne of changes on my island, like rotating buildings and making roads, then i Save the map *savemap (Name) and when i come back, everything is unrotated and the roads are gone, some of the buildings stay the same...
Next...
SOME WINDOWS DONT OPEN!! - When i click the solar system button, it appears but only in my taskbar, it doesnt show up in the main thing, it also doesnt if i try to play with minimized screen
Next...
NO ONE CAN GET ON MY ISLAND!! - No one actually helps me if i post in the forum, what a great help forum that is...
Next...
TREES DESTROY THE MAP!! - I tried to plant a line of trees, and the map became invisible along with the buildings, WONDERFUL! So now i have to change my lamp posts into trees, but they are client side because you cant select what textures the lamp post uses! But what does that matter? People cant get on the island anyway!
MAP BUG!! - "Mapmemloc -1", what the HELL does that mean??
MAP BUG!! - "Humm Something Wrong, Building 66545 doesnt exist Tell Mit!" Well if i told mit i doubt he would get around to doing it for about a month! Tell me Mit, when is the next version coming out? I was told soon 3 MONTHS AGO!
CAR BUG!! - If i happen to be reversing in a vehicle that is going at 5 accelleration, how come i can reach 30000 if i just press the foward button once?
Okay, not even half way!!!!!!!!
INSTALLATION BUG!! - I try to install it for my brother, it installs fine, but it wont connect to any islands, so i look in the directory and what do i see? An uninstall file and a data file with about 2 files in it and the tractor client!! HOW THE HELL CAN YOU RUN AN ISLAND WITH THAT?? After restarting about 8 TIMES it still wouldnt work!!! I HAD TO COPY MY WHOLE BLEEDING FILE OVER A NETWORK!! Then of course, he had my name, so wuhey!
JUKEBOX BUG!! - I press a jukebox button to play some music, the pc freezes and i have to restart.
EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN SQUARE!! - All my coasts are squared!!!!
FLYING BUG!! - I cant turn down my engine while flying, HOW THE HELL DO I LAND THEN???
FLYING BUG!! - If i hit the ground as a solution to the bug above, my engine goes down a bit and i fly right into the sky
FLYING BUG!! - When i turn while flying, i just see grey in the corner!!!
QUITTING BUG!! - When i try to quit, which i seem to do so OFTEN! I press F1 and it wont make me small mode, it just freezes the game, i press it again, back in the game, press it again, frozen, press it again, back in the game. You just have to keep pressing it about 10 TIMES then it might quit if your lucky!
COMMANDS UNKNOWN!! - Seeing as not one of you can be bothered to write up a working command list, i dont know many, i mean, i just tried *Firework, nothing happens!!! I mean what the hell is up with that, you cant do that but you can make a stupid *stomp command!! Christ!
SURFACE PROPERTIES!! - I try to make an impassable place, and if you charge really fast at it, you go right through it! That really stops people getting in doesnt it??
PLANE SETTINGS!! - How the hell can you expect people to know exactly how to setup a plane if all it says under vehicle settings is "Under Construction"?
VIEWING MODEL!! - I try to select a model from my list, so i go over it and the game just shuts down!
MODEL CONVERTER DOESNT CHANGE VEHICLE SIZE!! - Lol what crap! I had to do mine all by hand!! IT WAS ACHING BY THE END OF IT!!
Thanks for letting me rant! That's my first list done! Mit seriously, what the hell are you doing and how the hell is money going to help you? You cant buy time from the watch fairy!! For gods sake! IT SEEMS ALL YOUR DOING IS DRINKING AT THE BLOODY PUB! YES THATS IT, HE USES THE MONEY ON HIS DAMN BEER! Thankyou so much Mit! Now i can see what makes this tractor community so wonderful! Thankyou!
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Lord_Ephialtes
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only a few of those are actually bugs.
and most of the ones that are are already fixed for the next version.
and other things i'll add to the bug list
THE MAP DOESNT SAVE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE ISLAND!! - I make a tonne of changes on my island, like rotating buildings and making roads, then i Save the map *savemap (Name) and when i come back, everything is unrotated and the roads are gone, some of the buildings stay the same...
savemap has nothing to do with loading/saving the map between logins, it only makes a backup of it.
if time isen't moving on the island, then all those things will happen, as the game needs time running to do regular updates of the storage files. if your laying roads or other tiles ontop of other laid stuff, then they will go away because something is already thier. just do a .mapclear 3 to clear texmaps etc off the tile your on that the roads wont stay on.
SOME WINDOWS DONT OPEN!! - When i click the solar system button, it appears but only in my taskbar, it doesnt show up in the main thing, it also doesnt if i try to play with minimized screen
the window must have just been moved off screen somehow, its happened to me a few times and has happened to others too.
NO ONE CAN GET ON MY ISLAND!! - No one actually helps me if i post in the forum, what a great help forum that is
well, i askedyou a few questions in the higher of your two topics about this, but ok, if youd rather me give up instead of experimenting with hubs and islands, then fine with me. no sense wasteing my time with somebody whos going to stop trying also. besides that, its impossible for everything to work with everybody.
TREES DESTROY THE MAP!! - I tried to plant a line of trees, and the map became invisible along with the buildings, WONDERFUL! So now i have to change my lamp posts into trees, but they are client side because you cant select what textures the lamp post uses! But what does that matter? People cant get on the island anyway!
tree bug is fixed and working fine in next version. has been for a while.
MAP BUG!! - "Mapmemloc -1", what the HELL does that mean??
no clue, i've never seen that one before. canb i get some more info on it to add it to the bug list?
MAP BUG!! - "Humm Something Wrong, Building 66545 doesnt exist Tell Mit!" Well if i told mit i doubt he would get around to doing it for about a month! Tell me Mit, when is the next version coming out? I was told soon 3 MONTHS AGO!
this happens when you .destroy a building when your not close enough to a building. nothing special, and what would mit do about it? besides just change the message to "your not close enough to destroy anything" which mit has more important things to do.
CAR BUG!! - If i happen to be reversing in a vehicle that is going at 5 accelleration, how come i can reach 30000 if i just press the foward button once?
all the settings set properly? i've never seen this happen before if all the top speed etc are correctly set.
INSTALLATION BUG!! - I try to install it for my brother, it installs fine, but it wont connect to any islands, so i look in the directory and what do i see? An uninstall file and a data file with about 2 files in it and the tractor client!! HOW THE HELL CAN YOU RUN AN ISLAND WITH THAT?? After restarting about 8 TIMES it still wouldnt work!!! I HAD TO COPY MY WHOLE BLEEDING FILE OVER A NETWORK!! Then of course, he had my name, so wuhey!
you can't run an island with a client only, you run an island by downloading the full island install instead of installing just the client. the full island is in the Island Design section above at the bottem.
JUKEBOX BUG!! - I press a jukebox button to play some music, the pc freezes and i have to restart.
added to the bug list
EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN SQUARE!! - All my coasts are squared!!!!
then make some diagonal textures for them or edit the heightmap. its not mits or anybody elses but your own to make your island look nice.
FLYING BUG(s)!!
flying is wonderfully perfect in the next version. all the bugs are fixed.
QUITTING BUG!! - When i try to quit, which i seem to do so OFTEN! I press F1 and it wont make me small mode, it just freezes the game, i press it again, back in the game, press it again, frozen, press it again, back in the game. You just have to keep pressing it about 10 TIMES then it might quit if your lucky!
as said above about the island, its impossible to make everything work perfectly with everybody. i used to have that problem with windowed mode, but then i upgraded my computer. if your quitting, why not just hit F12 twice?
COMMANDS UNKNOWN!! - Seeing as not one of you can be bothered to write up a working command list, i dont know many, i mean, i just tried *Firework, nothing happens!!! I mean what the hell is up with that, you cant do that but you can make a stupid *stomp command!! Christ!
think of downloading the simple to use Island.chm file?
or checking http://www.atractorguide.com?
and besides, *firework never was a command, it was .rocket
SURFACE PROPERTIES!! - I try to make an impassable place, and if you charge really fast at it, you go right through it! That really stops people getting in doesnt it??
also fixed in the next version
PLANE SETTINGS!! - How the hell can you expect people to know exactly how to setup a plane if all it says under vehicle settings is "Under Construction"?
experimentation
it isen't really that hard to do.
VIEWING MODEL!! - I try to select a model from my list, so i go over it and the game just shuts down!
could be an unusable or corrupted model.
MODEL CONVERTER DOESNT CHANGE VEHICLE SIZE!! - Lol what crap! I had to do mine all by hand!! IT WAS ACHING BY THE END OF IT!!
lol, so? its only a converter, not a maker.
i also replied to your other topic about the model convertor explaining some stuff. besides that, if you made the models, then thier shoulden't be anything difficult about resizing them for the game.
Thanks for letting me rant! That's my first list done! Mit seriously, what the hell are you doing and how the hell is money going to help you? You cant buy time from the watch fairy!! For gods sake! IT SEEMS ALL YOUR DOING IS DRINKING AT THE BLOODY PUB! YES THATS IT, HE USES THE MONEY ON HIS DAMN BEER! Thankyou so much Mit! Now i can see what makes this tractor community so wonderful! Thankyou!
well gee, how about instead of assuming everything is broke, why not just step back and look at how your doing it. if you want the game to work perfectly for you, then pay him for it. after all, he's already doing it for us all without making a penny. how can money help him? quite easily., if he made enough from the game, then he woulden't have to work a full time job and only do this in his spare time. he'd be able to program the game full time and we'd get updates every week. which is how it was when i first started, while mit was on a few month vacation from his fulltime job
and most of the ones that are are already fixed for the next version.
and other things i'll add to the bug list
THE MAP DOESNT SAVE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE ISLAND!! - I make a tonne of changes on my island, like rotating buildings and making roads, then i Save the map *savemap (Name) and when i come back, everything is unrotated and the roads are gone, some of the buildings stay the same...
savemap has nothing to do with loading/saving the map between logins, it only makes a backup of it.
if time isen't moving on the island, then all those things will happen, as the game needs time running to do regular updates of the storage files. if your laying roads or other tiles ontop of other laid stuff, then they will go away because something is already thier. just do a .mapclear 3 to clear texmaps etc off the tile your on that the roads wont stay on.
SOME WINDOWS DONT OPEN!! - When i click the solar system button, it appears but only in my taskbar, it doesnt show up in the main thing, it also doesnt if i try to play with minimized screen
the window must have just been moved off screen somehow, its happened to me a few times and has happened to others too.
NO ONE CAN GET ON MY ISLAND!! - No one actually helps me if i post in the forum, what a great help forum that is
well, i askedyou a few questions in the higher of your two topics about this, but ok, if youd rather me give up instead of experimenting with hubs and islands, then fine with me. no sense wasteing my time with somebody whos going to stop trying also. besides that, its impossible for everything to work with everybody.
TREES DESTROY THE MAP!! - I tried to plant a line of trees, and the map became invisible along with the buildings, WONDERFUL! So now i have to change my lamp posts into trees, but they are client side because you cant select what textures the lamp post uses! But what does that matter? People cant get on the island anyway!
tree bug is fixed and working fine in next version. has been for a while.
MAP BUG!! - "Mapmemloc -1", what the HELL does that mean??
no clue, i've never seen that one before. canb i get some more info on it to add it to the bug list?
MAP BUG!! - "Humm Something Wrong, Building 66545 doesnt exist Tell Mit!" Well if i told mit i doubt he would get around to doing it for about a month! Tell me Mit, when is the next version coming out? I was told soon 3 MONTHS AGO!
this happens when you .destroy a building when your not close enough to a building. nothing special, and what would mit do about it? besides just change the message to "your not close enough to destroy anything" which mit has more important things to do.
CAR BUG!! - If i happen to be reversing in a vehicle that is going at 5 accelleration, how come i can reach 30000 if i just press the foward button once?
all the settings set properly? i've never seen this happen before if all the top speed etc are correctly set.
INSTALLATION BUG!! - I try to install it for my brother, it installs fine, but it wont connect to any islands, so i look in the directory and what do i see? An uninstall file and a data file with about 2 files in it and the tractor client!! HOW THE HELL CAN YOU RUN AN ISLAND WITH THAT?? After restarting about 8 TIMES it still wouldnt work!!! I HAD TO COPY MY WHOLE BLEEDING FILE OVER A NETWORK!! Then of course, he had my name, so wuhey!
you can't run an island with a client only, you run an island by downloading the full island install instead of installing just the client. the full island is in the Island Design section above at the bottem.
JUKEBOX BUG!! - I press a jukebox button to play some music, the pc freezes and i have to restart.
added to the bug list
EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN SQUARE!! - All my coasts are squared!!!!
then make some diagonal textures for them or edit the heightmap. its not mits or anybody elses but your own to make your island look nice.
FLYING BUG(s)!!
flying is wonderfully perfect in the next version. all the bugs are fixed.
QUITTING BUG!! - When i try to quit, which i seem to do so OFTEN! I press F1 and it wont make me small mode, it just freezes the game, i press it again, back in the game, press it again, frozen, press it again, back in the game. You just have to keep pressing it about 10 TIMES then it might quit if your lucky!
as said above about the island, its impossible to make everything work perfectly with everybody. i used to have that problem with windowed mode, but then i upgraded my computer. if your quitting, why not just hit F12 twice?
COMMANDS UNKNOWN!! - Seeing as not one of you can be bothered to write up a working command list, i dont know many, i mean, i just tried *Firework, nothing happens!!! I mean what the hell is up with that, you cant do that but you can make a stupid *stomp command!! Christ!
think of downloading the simple to use Island.chm file?
or checking http://www.atractorguide.com?
and besides, *firework never was a command, it was .rocket
SURFACE PROPERTIES!! - I try to make an impassable place, and if you charge really fast at it, you go right through it! That really stops people getting in doesnt it??
also fixed in the next version
PLANE SETTINGS!! - How the hell can you expect people to know exactly how to setup a plane if all it says under vehicle settings is "Under Construction"?
experimentation
it isen't really that hard to do.
VIEWING MODEL!! - I try to select a model from my list, so i go over it and the game just shuts down!
could be an unusable or corrupted model.
MODEL CONVERTER DOESNT CHANGE VEHICLE SIZE!! - Lol what crap! I had to do mine all by hand!! IT WAS ACHING BY THE END OF IT!!
lol, so? its only a converter, not a maker.
i also replied to your other topic about the model convertor explaining some stuff. besides that, if you made the models, then thier shoulden't be anything difficult about resizing them for the game.
Thanks for letting me rant! That's my first list done! Mit seriously, what the hell are you doing and how the hell is money going to help you? You cant buy time from the watch fairy!! For gods sake! IT SEEMS ALL YOUR DOING IS DRINKING AT THE BLOODY PUB! YES THATS IT, HE USES THE MONEY ON HIS DAMN BEER! Thankyou so much Mit! Now i can see what makes this tractor community so wonderful! Thankyou!
well gee, how about instead of assuming everything is broke, why not just step back and look at how your doing it. if you want the game to work perfectly for you, then pay him for it. after all, he's already doing it for us all without making a penny. how can money help him? quite easily., if he made enough from the game, then he woulden't have to work a full time job and only do this in his spare time. he'd be able to program the game full time and we'd get updates every week. which is how it was when i first started, while mit was on a few month vacation from his fulltime job
It's ranting time.
Well, I'd like to thank you Ephilates for all those lovely complaints. I'd also like to say that anyone that has this much to complain about a free game has too much time on their hands. I think Mit'd probably be the first to say that this game is not finished. In fact, he's said it many a time. There's bound to be bugs. There's even bugs in commercial products. That's why they have patches.
If you've realised how far this game has come, you'll realise how good it actually is. I don't know about you, but I've witnessed this game go pretty damn far and personally, no offence to Mit's talents, but I'm pretty damn amazed it's got this far with all the abuse that you give him and how damn ungrateful you are. Think about that.
Also, your list of bugs. Zar has pointed out the ones that are actually bugs and let's count... five. Of them five, let's see how many are fixed in the next version... three.
I'd say three out of five is a pretty good record, considering that of the other two, one hasn't been replicated by anyone else. Mapmemloc -1 probably wouldn't make any sense at all, but seeing as no-one else has got it I'd take a look at your map - see what's different.
So how about you stop posting lots of messages which is really just to get up people's skin and you get grateful to a group of people who have given up a decent amount of their free time to make this game and host it for you, for free. Once you start paying about $10 a month or whatever it is to play an online game these days and you have to buy the software itself, and Mit has a design team of thirty or more working on it constantly, then you can complain about little bugs with the jukebox and all that other rubbish.
Good day.
If you've realised how far this game has come, you'll realise how good it actually is. I don't know about you, but I've witnessed this game go pretty damn far and personally, no offence to Mit's talents, but I'm pretty damn amazed it's got this far with all the abuse that you give him and how damn ungrateful you are. Think about that.
Also, your list of bugs. Zar has pointed out the ones that are actually bugs and let's count... five. Of them five, let's see how many are fixed in the next version... three.
I'd say three out of five is a pretty good record, considering that of the other two, one hasn't been replicated by anyone else. Mapmemloc -1 probably wouldn't make any sense at all, but seeing as no-one else has got it I'd take a look at your map - see what's different.
So how about you stop posting lots of messages which is really just to get up people's skin and you get grateful to a group of people who have given up a decent amount of their free time to make this game and host it for you, for free. Once you start paying about $10 a month or whatever it is to play an online game these days and you have to buy the software itself, and Mit has a design team of thirty or more working on it constantly, then you can complain about little bugs with the jukebox and all that other rubbish.
Good day.
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The_Grim_Reaper
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MAP BUG!! - "Humm Something Wrong, Building 66545 doesnt exist Tell Mit!" Well if i told mit i doubt he would get around to doing it for about a month! Tell me Mit, when is the next version coming out? I was told soon 3 MONTHS AGO!
Who can blame Mit for taking his time, what good is a computer game when you cant pay rent... anyways
I have notice too if you build a building and then remove the building from the actual list of available buildings, it may dissapear and if you try to del any thing near it you get this message. Simply fixed by adding the building back onto the available list and then destroying it proberly.
MODEL CONVERTER DOESNT CHANGE VEHICLE SIZE!! - Lol what crap! I had to do mine all by hand!! IT WAS ACHING BY THE END OF IT!!
try coverting the atm model into a 3ds. finding a program to resize a 3ds model is pretty simple. I think i posted a couple on here a while ago as a matter of fact.
And if your hand hurts that bad, stop typing and start ligting weights.
CAR BUG!! - If i happen to be reversing in a vehicle that is going at 5 accelleration, how come i can reach 30000 if i just press the foward button once?
I have noticed that if a veh has a lower Shift top Speed or Aceration then the normal Speed or Acceleration that this will sometimes occur.
COMMANDS UNKNOWN!! - Seeing as not one of you can be bothered to write up a working command list, i dont know many, i mean, i just tried *Firework, nothing happens!!! I mean what the hell is up with that, you cant do that but you can make a stupid *stomp command!! Christ!
http://zarsite.com/
EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN SQUARE!! - All my coasts are squared!!!!
Ah thank you mit for the handy random map maker. Nice rolling curved hills and a bueatiful shore line.
Well then..
Thank you Mit for making such a great game. Hours of free time spend uselessley , i love it.
Remember the game is FREE BETA. Of course its not going to be perfect, heck, atleast it runs better the my Windows 98.
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Who can blame Mit for taking his time, what good is a computer game when you cant pay rent... anyways
I have notice too if you build a building and then remove the building from the actual list of available buildings, it may dissapear and if you try to del any thing near it you get this message. Simply fixed by adding the building back onto the available list and then destroying it proberly.
MODEL CONVERTER DOESNT CHANGE VEHICLE SIZE!! - Lol what crap! I had to do mine all by hand!! IT WAS ACHING BY THE END OF IT!!
try coverting the atm model into a 3ds. finding a program to resize a 3ds model is pretty simple. I think i posted a couple on here a while ago as a matter of fact.
And if your hand hurts that bad, stop typing and start ligting weights.
CAR BUG!! - If i happen to be reversing in a vehicle that is going at 5 accelleration, how come i can reach 30000 if i just press the foward button once?
I have noticed that if a veh has a lower Shift top Speed or Aceration then the normal Speed or Acceleration that this will sometimes occur.
COMMANDS UNKNOWN!! - Seeing as not one of you can be bothered to write up a working command list, i dont know many, i mean, i just tried *Firework, nothing happens!!! I mean what the hell is up with that, you cant do that but you can make a stupid *stomp command!! Christ!
http://zarsite.com/ EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN SQUARE!! - All my coasts are squared!!!!
Ah thank you mit for the handy random map maker. Nice rolling curved hills and a bueatiful shore line.
Well then..
Thank you Mit for making such a great game. Hours of free time spend uselessley
, i love it. Remember the game is FREE BETA. Of course its not going to be perfect, heck, atleast it runs better the my Windows 98.
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Lord_Ephialtes
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Think ya should!
You definately should, i changed some slope settings, and then half my bridge was underwater, Crazyhorse!! 
believe me, i get frusterated too sometimes when i've got a really cool idea that doesn't quite go the way i planned due to a bug or something that hasn't been implimented yet, but looking at the big picture, the game's come a long, long way, and we're talking about a really small development team (think as small as you can get 
), and an art department of about the same size, with the occasional player contributing a game asset here or there.
that we've even made it this far is practically incomprehensible when comparing it to most game development. as someone working on graphics pretty regularly now, i've started to get only a small taste of what mit and devi must feel constantly - if only...if only there were 400+ hours in a day
the good news however; as recently as just the past month, tons of new developments have made in terms of how bugs are tracked, as well as how development people communicate; both in game and out of game becoming a lot more sophisticated. just in this next version, if it were to be released yesterday, 21 unique bugs have been fixed, about half of those being major, showstopper type bugs. a few of the minor ones have even been changes in documentation, so players don't misread something and then think it's a bug.
it sometimes strikes me as odd that despite the ridiculously put-offish, almost self-depricating version number, it never quite sinks in, myself included:
when a program is in version 1.0, it's considered a stable, "final" release version of the software. that's when a user would still expect to find some bugs, but not anything that's a total showstopper.
(
however the games industry has long been an exception - most p.c. games in the industry are littered with bugs. patches are released time and time again. some even have showstoppers which cause their reputation never to fully recover and cripple sales (think anarchy online's connectivity problems).
)
the current version of islands is 0.0.3.99.3......when the next version is out, it'll be version 0.1..... one tenth of the way to what most people would consider a non-beta version of the game.
i would challenge anyone to find a free online game with as much depth, originality, addictiveness and accessibility as a creative outlet. i mean one that isn't swamped with bugs ten times the size of even the current version, or isn't vaporware entirely.
nice horse btw
), and an art department of about the same size, with the occasional player contributing a game asset here or there.that we've even made it this far is practically incomprehensible when comparing it to most game development. as someone working on graphics pretty regularly now, i've started to get only a small taste of what mit and devi must feel constantly - if only...if only there were 400+ hours in a day
the good news however; as recently as just the past month, tons of new developments have made in terms of how bugs are tracked, as well as how development people communicate; both in game and out of game becoming a lot more sophisticated. just in this next version, if it were to be released yesterday, 21 unique bugs have been fixed, about half of those being major, showstopper type bugs. a few of the minor ones have even been changes in documentation, so players don't misread something and then think it's a bug.
it sometimes strikes me as odd that despite the ridiculously put-offish, almost self-depricating version number, it never quite sinks in, myself included:
when a program is in version 1.0, it's considered a stable, "final" release version of the software. that's when a user would still expect to find some bugs, but not anything that's a total showstopper.
(
however the games industry has long been an exception - most p.c. games in the industry are littered with bugs. patches are released time and time again. some even have showstoppers which cause their reputation never to fully recover and cripple sales (think anarchy online's connectivity problems).
)
the current version of islands is 0.0.3.99.3......when the next version is out, it'll be version 0.1..... one tenth of the way to what most people would consider a non-beta version of the game.
i would challenge anyone to find a free online game with as much depth, originality, addictiveness and accessibility as a creative outlet. i mean one that isn't swamped with bugs ten times the size of even the current version, or isn't vaporware entirely.
nice horse btw
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thanks!
Oh Thankyou! I thought it was a good horse too, while i was typing my message, i realised i had used the word, CRAZYHORSE it was too late to turn back! So i searched in google for crazy horse and clicked the images tab and got a lot of sex images, so i pressed back and searched for horse, and this adorable little fellow came up! So from now on, i declare, that anyone who uses the word Crazyhorse on these forums MUST insert a picture of...a HORSE!
Pssst...Hey mit, hedgehog, back me up here
Pssst...Hey mit, hedgehog, back me up here
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Lord_Ephialtes
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