Zion Export

blanchy_666 · Post by **blanchy_666** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:37 am

Can someone please make a new export as it has pretty much halted the economy

funkysmellinguy · Post by **funkysmellinguy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:48 pm

Yeah, mit, it buys fuel so low you cant make a profit. Make it buy oil at 3d and well never have any more fuel shortages.

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:41 pm

just make fuel cheaper then

it's baught fuel at 1s1d since the world started, its fine.
blame the people selling oil at 3d instead of 2d.

funkysmellinguy · Post by **funkysmellinguy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:02 pm

nobodys selling oil, thats the problem. theres no profit in it. There would be if refineries bought at 3d, or if you could move oil to your own refinery, or if you could sell from a refinery, or even if you could move from your refinery to your petrol station. but you cant. hell i have a well selling at 1d, just because thats the only way to get fuel. Fuel droughts occur all the time.

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:32 pm

the only problem on the world is the one that always has and always will exist on every world in the game, thats the fact that theres many players who are too lazy to take care of there stuff or set it up properly to make full use of it. lack of players desire to do things isn't the worlds fault.

theres no profit in oil? how can you say that? doesen't it make 5 oil every 5 mins for 0d?
if a drill is employing at less then 1s, it can sell oil for 2d per and make a profit.

if other drills don't sell there stock, there owners must not want to make money. you could try asking them to set sell prices on there drills. it usually works. then you can buy oil to stock your ref with.

its also not the worlds fault that people built many refs due to the fuel crises instead of looking into WHY there is a shortage and building oil instead.

funkysmellinguy · Post by **funkysmellinguy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:42 pm

No, i think you misunderstand. i own an oil well and i can make a profit by selling that. but thw problem is that the refinery make 1 fuel/ 5mins/ 2 oil. so it has to buy at 2d to make a profit. but then nobody shuttles it. but if it buys at 3d then it has to sell at 6d+X and nobody's going to work for 5d! you could counter that the owners should shuttle it themselves but thats not balanced, as the mine owners dont have to.

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:58 pm

edited my post to make it nicer sounding

lol, balence? this is a game. who says an economy all has to be the exact same buildings running the exact same way?

so what if the ref buys at 2d. like you said, the building owners can move the stock. the fact that people can't accept that they actually have to do work for themselves sometimes is exactly what i'm talking about. its not the games fault some players are lazy and/or can't set up there buildings properly.

can't employ for 5d? since when? its incredibly easy. you just wait for a new player to join, and while teaching them how to play, have them learn the skill you want and take a job at your building.

NooB · Post by **NooB** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:06 pm

I'm Kind of Fixing it now.. im working for one of the rigs and im moving the oil myself already put almsot 40 Fuel out into the game... and im only making 1D profit and i not complaining

blanchy_666 · Post by **blanchy_666** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:13 pm

It wasn't too bad few weeks ago I had 2 oil drills and an oil refinery setup which was contantly producing even though i make it make negative profit so more people would trade (made oil at rigs sell for 2 and buy for 3 at refinery) untill all my buildings decayed and i lost all my money i had invested in them. So Ive gone back to ore mines untill I get 2kS to set up another one

Graffiter · Post by **Graffiter** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:07 pm

I think the main problem lies with the employee's payment. There's already so many jobs that offer 7-9d, even 1s. Nobody would want to work at anything less.

Even if you do find a new player, if he's anything near intelligent, he'll know to get a better job, than some 5d paying one. If he's workin' at a oil refinery, it may not be that bad, consider it'll take forever to use up all 500 oil.

Oh well, ignoring all of that, I agree it's fine the way it is. Why? Because there's no food, this is the only thing that can be consumed on a daily basis. Fuel shouldn't even be exported anyway, the metal ore business is a hell of a lot more lucrative. It produces more bang for the time it takes. And you can sell it directly.

Though it'd be nice if there was more content... And there's a huge increase in unfilled jobs lately. Probably because players don't login and lose their stuff? I dunno.