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Little Help plz...

Post by Kolirio »

Do you can delete this ip (82.223.21.72) from your log plz? I cant connect because we are 2 Brothers with 1 CPU... Thx
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Post by leigon »

nope ye have to deleat accounts to fix multi. tell us what account and what planet.
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Post by Mit »

If you mean you're not able to connect to the galaxy now, we'll need to know the 2 usernames you created. Having 2 players registered on 1 computer is restricted unfortunately - it has to be that way to prevent easy cheats where players create multiple characters and swap cash between them.

To avoid connection problems like this in the future, you should keep one username for both you and your brother, and use different nicknames on the worlds you're on. To avoid multiple characters, you and your brother will have to agree to play on different worlds.

Sorry if this is awkward or restrictive for you, but there is no simple alternative that avoids the easy cheats mentioned above.
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Post by 10dollars »

Theres another way you can do it, you can prove to us you have a bro, and ask the world owner to allow you (specificly) to have you and your bro on 2 accounts, it can be easier if u have 2 comps for each of you. It's more flexible, otherwise your stuck how you are.
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Post by Malkiah »

He cant do that 10, in any way shape or form, he is stuck with 2vs1, cuz of the IP, and other restrictions, most plp are on Dynamic IP's, so if it were to ever be, i can simply drop my IP, get a new one, DELETE the Universal, create new account, log in, get new character with cash(i have already built a laundering building, at this point, from other character), launder my money into the building, log off, delete universal, set it as my old character account, and log in, and whallah, collect my invest. But hey, thank god there are other restrictions, cuz if not, this is very usable knowledge, =D
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Post by Swabie »

Ummmm... As my understanding is (this may be wrong) that the IP is the pricipal restriction for stopping such behavior, what exactly is stopping the 100's (ok, prob more like 20) of people reading what u just said and appyling this cheat???? Nice one Malk. lol.

...Well, that is assuming the cheater has an understanding of how to REALLY remove a program from ur comp (i have not checked but hope(!!!) there is some hidden prohibitive reg. entry stopping this sort of behavior.)

That is unless it dosnt really use IP as i was told, but instead uses the persons ACCTUAL internet address... (i.e. 'ool-18b1429.dyn.optonline.net' is my actual and never changing id from Optimum Online even though my current ip is 24.187.20.42) (numbers changed slightly so dont try to DOS attack me or anythin... :D )

Anyways it is pretty annoying to completely block ppl like this cause I have someone on my network that would like to play but can't because of the IP. (Except on Planita where Junk gracefully lets us both play but not interact with one another - as if u try to sell to yourself.) Junks approach seems to be a better solution to the cheat to me *personally* because now we can co-exist. We just can't cohort with one another.

I DO see how this would be a prob on non-econ worlds i guess... With 2 comps u could log on both an just kill the fake 8million times. So maybe as a fix u could have it so ppl that resolve to same address can't kill each other either.
Only thing someone could do is have multiple characters but they could not benefit from eachother so what does it matter??

I do admit i would rather this inconvienance than rampant cheating though....

Edit: OH POOP - I just realized a way this could *possibly* be exploited (and wont post how) but would be a real pain in the ass more than once or twice. I have come up with a solution but dont know how the game is coded so can't say how difficult the fix would be. (dosnt SEEM to hard) If any dev would like to kno my ideas email me - i dont want to post anything that could be exploited.
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Post by Magicfinger »

email to

abuse [at) theuniversal (dot] net
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Post by zaroba »

if you have a 2nd computer, both you and your brother should be able to play.
1 computer for each account, the ip wont matter much because the computers are different. during gal connection you might have to stop the connection, select andromeda from the list, and hit the connect button. on islands both accounts will be able to play easily, but wont be able to interact with each other besides chatting.

if you don't have a 2nd computer, go with the 1 gal account thing,
you could go with mits idea of 2 instilations, keeping the account name/password the same between them, but useing a different character name, and deciding which islands each should play.
or
could go with 1 instilation, 1 player name, and decideing whith brother plays each island. a few others have done this in the past (Spider is one of them) and many players don't even notice that thiers a different person playing the account on one island then on another island.
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Post by Fooli »

As Magic said, if you think you've come up with a cunning exploit mail the abuse address and we'll look into it.

However, remember that not only are accounts locked to IPs and unique IDs but that server logs enable us to see suspicious behaviour - anyone killing someone over and over again, for example, or 'laundering' money, would be pretty easy to spot, slap, have the pointlessness of cheating explained to them in tedious detail, and then ban :)

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Post by Malkiah »

Swabie wrote:Ummmm... As my understanding is (this may be wrong) that the IP is the pricipal restriction for stopping such behavior, what exactly is stopping the 100's (ok, prob more like 20) of people reading what u just said and appyling this cheat???? Nice one Malk. lol.

...Well, that is assuming the cheater has an understanding of how to REALLY remove a program from ur comp (i have not checked but hope(!!!) there is some hidden prohibitive reg. entry stopping this sort of behavior.)

That is unless it dosnt really use IP as i was told, but instead uses the persons ACCTUAL internet address... (i.e. 'ool-18b1429.dyn.optonline.net' is my actual and never changing id from Optimum Online even though my current ip is 24.187.20.42) (numbers changed slightly so dont try to DOS attack me or anythin... :D )

Anyways it is pretty annoying to completely block ppl like this cause I have someone on my network that would like to play but can't because of the IP. (Except on Planita where Junk gracefully lets us both play but not interact with one another - as if u try to sell to yourself.) Junks approach seems to be a better solution to the cheat to me *personally* because now we can co-exist. We just can't cohort with one another.

I DO see how this would be a prob on non-econ worlds i guess... With 2 comps u could log on both an just kill the fake 8million times. So maybe as a fix u could have it so ppl that resolve to same address can't kill each other either.
Only thing someone could do is have multiple characters but they could not benefit from eachother so what does it matter??

I do admit i would rather this inconvienance than rampant cheating though....

Edit: OH POOP - I just realized a way this could *possibly* be exploited (and wont post how) but would be a real pain in the ass more than once or twice. I have come up with a solution but dont know how the game is coded so can't say how difficult the fix would be. (dosnt SEEM to hard) If any dev would like to kno my ideas email me - i dont want to post anything that could be exploited.
I know how to edit the registry, edit it until its nothing more then my imagination, but im not a cheater, and besides if my little hypothesis works, then someone would have deleted my post by now, ok.
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Post by Malkiah »

i didnt post my hypothesis too let some hack community cheat the hell out of the Universal, i did it so everyone knows, if you use this, ima notice, its my own enginuity at work, so dont, even if the devs dont discover it(like they said its easy) ill will spot it 10 miles away. :!:
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Post by zaroba »

i know how to edit the reg too.
i was unable to find any exploits.
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