The lowdown on Chapter 5

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The lowdown on Chapter 5

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Hello,
So here's some general info on chap 5:

Firstly, its a fairly standard 'hunger & thirst economy world', and like all the worlds this year and next its an Alpha.
It may well turn out to be completely busted, have something vital missing, be completely unbalanced (especially at the start), have obvious exploits, and may need to get reset and restarted while we play it. Certainly, things will change as we play so you may find that the building you made because it made a load of easy money suddenly doesnt (etc)

Please report any problems or flaws with the world as soon as you can and i'll try to get them fixed up promptly. (The quicker things are addressed the less likely it is that we'll need to reset the world).

Next - its about, say, 40% done. More of it will be completed as we play it but it won't be anywhere near finished until we come back to it in the beta phase. Don't know exactly what bits will get done and what bits won't - we'll see what works and what doesnt as we play - it's deliberately open-ended.

So thats the background.
Here are some bits you will find from the start (or near to..) :

- Its a big world. Be warned! It'll take a long time to explore and its really easy to get lost :). It also takes a fair bit of time to travel from place to place, which is something you'll want to do something about.
- The normal currency system will be used. You'll be able to buy and sell buildings.
- Players will be able to build their own towns. (If you're wealthy enough.. and at increasing cost as the available land shrinks).
- Initially, health, hunger and thirst will work much the same as Chap 3 (though the years are longer so you'll age more slowly). At first, Death will result in you losing buildings and items as per chap 3, but you'll keep your cash/inheritance. This'll be changed later.
- Theres a mix of standard and scripted buildings, some deal with things a bit differently but the economy generally works on the principle that the building doesn't produce anything unless you pay your employee. (And generally, employees don't get paid unless they're producing something).

At the beginning you'll have some assistance from Charlemagne in getting a start on the world, but his involvement will decrease as the world becomes self-sufficient.

Here are some of the things that won't be active at the start, but will be added during the chapter's life :
- Wellbeing : We'll be using this to expand the number & range of items and production lines... eventually you won't be able to survive too long on a diet of only bread and water.
- Battles : There will be a new (skill-based) battle system, with battles occurring between residents of different towns. There'll be a meta-game with the different towns competing against each other.
- More minigames : Cricket, pubs, a racetrack and other stuff will be added during the next few months.
- Invention - Eventually, you'll be inventing various items appropriate to the era, including maps and compasses, and then on to other things that progress us to the next chapters.

Someone in chat a lil while ago said 'i bet chap 5 will be just another dead-end economy. If it was any good it'd have W, X, Y and Z' (I'm not revealing the actual suggestions, of course ;) ) I was pleased knowing that we already have W and X, and Y & Z will come in the course of things. so yay.
Hope you enjoy it.
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YAY, Kricket is comming back, me want it now :D
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One quick question before the end is nigh on this island. Will gold be brought over if they have been invested in buildings? Cause I currently have an employee and would like to know if I should pull all that out, or if he could possibly make some quick dollars before we sail?

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It'll only be the gold that you have on you, won't include gold in buildings.
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silly question, will our health etc reset or are we continuing with our existing lives?
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Post by Mit »

will be all new chars.. you'll be 12 again... not for any narrative reason, just because its easier that way :)
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puggy wrote:YAY, Kricket is comming back, me want it now :D
wth is Kricket???
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Its like baseball, but done properly and with tea.
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pfft, all we did over here was make it more entertaining and rename it Baseball
it's still pretty boring though :P
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agreed baseball is realy boring. give me something exploding any day :twisted:
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Tea is good though.
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Post by Odin »

Would it be possible to build only houses outside of towns? I don't know bout you, but I hate the idea of always cramping up inside the towns, especially when they start to almost become minor cities in scale. And would prefer a house on the coast to store my belongings. Especially since you've hinted some sort of new transportation besides walking, I think it'd be pretty legit.
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chap 5 uses the old-style method of having farms outside of towns, but currently homes have to be inside. (This is partly because it determines which town you're a resident of, which leads to the meta-game mentioned above).
I do like the sound of a 'beach house' though, so may be something i might look at later.
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Post by morbydvisns »

Ok well with mr charles magne, the conclusion can be drawn that planets are able to interact with eachother in some sort of fashion. My quesion is, am I correct in that, and if so, to what extent? This will mos def affect my decision to upgrade diamond or not anytime soon =).
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bump
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theres no connectedness yet. the transition of items (and gold, had the script worked) was done by writing a script on civ that outputted the list of everyone and everything affected, using *logtext, then a bit of copy & paste & macro trickery to bring it into the aram scripts before everyone arrived. tada.
I have been thinking about scripted web posts recently - that can be quite powerful ( combined with a bit of php or something on the serverside, for instance), but we'll see.
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Post by Odin »

Whats the point to build commerce, if manufacturing buildings can already sell their wares direct to consumer?
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There isnt much initially, other than location and convenience. (As there becomes more wealth around, it'll be more likely that someone will be willing to pay an extra denari or two rather than hunting around for supplies.) Later, there will be more stuff (like island maps, compasses, etc) that will only be available in shops.
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I've also noticed that apparently the hardware store (Don't know about others) doesn't allow buying in of stock. And again, a useless building due to manufacturers of building materials can just sell straight from their own factory.
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