bugger!!!!! bugger bugger!
DAMNIT!
jesus holy mother of christ!
apologies for this just REALLY pansy ME OFF!!!!!!!
argh!
EDIT: very sorry, if you want me to delete this it shall be deleted
EDIT2: bugger bugger bugger! i dont want to use a differant gateway... could i ask whats the exact reason for this gateway downfall? and why we werent given any prior notice?
1 week away ish from opening my OCEANIC isle!
sorry, tom.. what happened was this..
At the weekend I found a pretty major bug in the communication systems between the galaxy, worlds and islands. The bug had been around since before 0.03.9 but wasnt apparent until I started trying to use the systems involved. I had to fix the bug, of course, for otherwise we wouldnt be able to continue developing the new vers. I knew at the time that it was a bit risky to fix, coz it meant changing some messaging that happens between old islands and the worlds, and i wasnt sure what effect that would have on code thats now a fair few months out of date (i.e. the 0.03.99.3 client). (Sure.. a big proper production game would have private testbeds and the time to make sure development fixes dont affect the currently runnin versions, but ya know the situation here, so i often jus have to wing it and hope the old stuff copes.. (It usually does.. its surprising everythings been workin at all til now, as the world servers have become very different beasts over the past few months). )
In the end it turned out that the fix meant the client couldnt properly connect to the worlds so they were pretty much useless as 0.03.99.3 worlds.
The choices at that point were.. to revert all the worlds back to an earlier system, and try to work around the bug with the new clients & servers (a time-consuming and unpleasant approach that'd probably jus end up leading to more bugs in the future), shut down all the 0.03.99 islands till the new version was ready to roll (similarly unpleasant solution and i didnt wanna get forced into releasing the new stuff until it was properly playable), release the client as it is now (heh, no, its nice, but see above) or update all the worlds except the most used one (Zoric) which is left running the old code so that at least some islands can continue.
you didnt expect that thorough (and dull) an answer aight?
Anyway, eventually (if you're willing to pay the price :] ) you could have your own world, use whateva buildings ya want and run your place without oceanic being involved at all - so it is only a temporary hitch..
At the weekend I found a pretty major bug in the communication systems between the galaxy, worlds and islands. The bug had been around since before 0.03.9 but wasnt apparent until I started trying to use the systems involved. I had to fix the bug, of course, for otherwise we wouldnt be able to continue developing the new vers. I knew at the time that it was a bit risky to fix, coz it meant changing some messaging that happens between old islands and the worlds, and i wasnt sure what effect that would have on code thats now a fair few months out of date (i.e. the 0.03.99.3 client). (Sure.. a big proper production game would have private testbeds and the time to make sure development fixes dont affect the currently runnin versions, but ya know the situation here, so i often jus have to wing it and hope the old stuff copes.. (It usually does.. its surprising everythings been workin at all til now, as the world servers have become very different beasts over the past few months). )
In the end it turned out that the fix meant the client couldnt properly connect to the worlds so they were pretty much useless as 0.03.99.3 worlds.
The choices at that point were.. to revert all the worlds back to an earlier system, and try to work around the bug with the new clients & servers (a time-consuming and unpleasant approach that'd probably jus end up leading to more bugs in the future), shut down all the 0.03.99 islands till the new version was ready to roll (similarly unpleasant solution and i didnt wanna get forced into releasing the new stuff until it was properly playable), release the client as it is now (heh, no, its nice, but see above) or update all the worlds except the most used one (Zoric) which is left running the old code so that at least some islands can continue.
you didnt expect that thorough (and dull) an answer aight?
Anyway, eventually (if you're willing to pay the price :] ) you could have your own world, use whateva buildings ya want and run your place without oceanic being involved at all - so it is only a temporary hitch..
i didn't get to read the unedited version, but either way i'd think my big question would be why the heck you would want an oceanic isle in the first place....zar's kept up with zoric farrrrrr better than i've been with keeping oceanic in check... 90% of the bdat is terribly unorganized since i aquired it, and most of the buildings are my own weird crap that i slapped in for a few of the new 0.1 worlds....that and the fact it's been rebooted about 300+ times since development started.
mit asked what i thought i wanted to do, or what i thought was best as the world owner; so ultimately i assume the responsibility here, but honestly i only saw one island using oceanic, and figured it wasn't going to really impact anyone at this stage.
in the next vers if you really want to aquire some of the oceanic bdat, and you're paying for a full world, i'd be happy to send you what i've got.
honestly though i'll be glad when i can wipe the whole bdat and start from semi-scratch and make something far more organized... i just kept piling crap on top of stuff after i inherited it. it's a feckin' mess right now if you ask me.
mit asked what i thought i wanted to do, or what i thought was best as the world owner; so ultimately i assume the responsibility here, but honestly i only saw one island using oceanic, and figured it wasn't going to really impact anyone at this stage.
in the next vers if you really want to aquire some of the oceanic bdat, and you're paying for a full world, i'd be happy to send you what i've got.
honestly though i'll be glad when i can wipe the whole bdat and start from semi-scratch and make something far more organized... i just kept piling crap on top of stuff after i inherited it. it's a feckin' mess right now if you ask me.
those edits didn't unedit any words just editted new bits to the end of the post! (i've learnt not to swear on forums... just the lil swearing words that ultimately nobody cares or notices!
i agreee hedge! it was a complete mess!
but the reason i dislike zoric gate is because the isles are already pre-made! and so i dont get to individualise it! all the isles are basically the same! i mean a few settings here and there and differant start cash but its all alike!
i like oceanic cause i can mix and match and make it all come together. and if i got my own gateway (which i cant, because i can't host it) then i wouldn't want oceanic, i would make my own! you remember how picky i was when i had Eville, i kept asking for changes ect ect... but i would love to make one because its like 90% of the fun of making an isle! the rest is pretty much boring... settings for cars life economy crows world blah blah blah
and mit thanks for that explaination i was just a lil peezed as i had been working on my isle for like 1 /12 on and off. i would have just liked a lil warning.
anyway sorry for the inconvienced caused!
cya T
i agreee hedge! it was a complete mess!
but the reason i dislike zoric gate is because the isles are already pre-made! and so i dont get to individualise it! all the isles are basically the same! i mean a few settings here and there and differant start cash but its all alike!
i like oceanic cause i can mix and match and make it all come together. and if i got my own gateway (which i cant, because i can't host it) then i wouldn't want oceanic, i would make my own! you remember how picky i was when i had Eville, i kept asking for changes ect ect... but i would love to make one because its like 90% of the fun of making an isle! the rest is pretty much boring... settings for cars life economy crows world blah blah blah
and mit thanks for that explaination i was just a lil peezed as i had been working on my isle for like 1 /12 on and off. i would have just liked a lil warning.
anyway sorry for the inconvienced caused!
cya T
more than likely oceanic's original karyn-created bdat (aka: the stuff that isn't a mess) will be posted somewhere for world owners, or available somewhere for people trying out the island servers. so more than likely you'd still be able to have the island exactly as intended by the time 0.1's out.
sorry again
*flog hedgehog
sorry again
*flog hedgehog
but dont worry if its any trouble i understand