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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:52 pm
by fhko
But .tga still doesn't give me transparency and that's what I need.

The alpha blend settings only really apply for a very limited number of things and leaves aren't one of them.

Well I'll try a pilot tree just using alphas, but I'm not going to be holding me breathe.

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:26 pm
by Fooli
No, young jedi, you misunderstand :] A .tga file (like png and various other formats) stores alpha channel information alongside the usual red, blue and green information for each pixel. In other words it stores the transparency of each pixel. The usual procedure is to create a mask of your image in your paint program and use that to create the alpha channel info (alpha masks are greyscale images, white is opaque, black is transparent and so on). Wot that means is, you can create a branch texture using 16 million colours and still get the same transparent effect you would using indexed bitmaps and 255 blue. It has nothing to do with the blend modes in the model converter :]

The tricky bit is creating the tga with the transparency in the first place. I always find it a pain to do in psp, anyway.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:30 pm
by fhko
Really? I wasn't getting any transparenciness when I saved my images to .tga.

Give me a second and I'll try with a semi-legal version of Paint Shop Pro.

...Nope. Still no alpha.

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.png's (for which I know I can get transparency using) just gets a white fill-in where there should be nothing.

Currently the best results have definitely been through blue-255. Which always leaves those tell-tale off-blue dots on the edges.

Hey! What the heck?! Why isn't blue-255 working now!?

Now I'm mad....

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Edit: Okay, Blue-255 info doesn't store properly as a material for some reason. That will need looking into.

Examples of my working thus far:

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:41 pm
by Fooli
It's a pain, I agree, but you can do tgas with psp...

Incredibly Short Tutorial (tm):

1. Create your branch image, make sure it's on its own layer
2. Create a new layer.
3. Select everything on the branch image you want to be transparent: on the new layer fill it black
4. Invert the selection (so you're now selecting everything you want to be visible): fill it white
5. In the Selections menu, and with that white selection still visible, choose "save to alpha channel"
6. Hide the new layer so your original branch image is showing; then save as uncompressed, 24-bit tga.

That's incredibly basic alpha but it ought to work... does for me in psp v7.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:59 pm
by Fooli
(by the way... that's incredibly basic alpha because it's, um, 1 bit or 2 bit alpha or something. In other words, either completely opaque (white) or completely transparent (black). You should be able to create 8 bit alpha using 256 shades of grey, so black is transparent, white is opaque and mid-grey is 50% transparent. And indeed it's possible to do so, I just haven't quite worked out how you're supposed to apply that to a complex image like a tree branch. Doing that would let you fade the edges of the leaves etc out more nicely.
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:36 pm
by fhko
GOAAAALLLLL!!!!

I got it to work. :wink:

Now for the fine tuning.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:41 pm
by fhko
Shoot. I don't remember how I did it. It's not working now.

Dang it!! :evil:

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:32 am
by jmoyet
hehe... now i remember why i gave up on them 2D trees and grass i had made once.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:44 pm
by fhko
Actually I figured it out again...now I can't get rid of the white border. Curse these limited graphics programs.

I'll be free to do random crud like this in a couple weeks. Stay tuned for developments.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:51 pm
by Mishka
I dare to ask for a zombie humanoid model. :wink:


Edit: Hmm forget that, how about some evil monster creature. Should be evil looking, vicious, bloodthirsty, etc..

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:36 pm
by flametard
fhko might be away fro a while. :cry:

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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:09 pm
by Speeddy
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Re: omg gordont freeeman

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:52 pm
by jmoyet
Speeddy wrote:i've played half-life ; half-life 2 ;half-life epised l;half-life episod ll ;half-life dead match sourse ;half-life 2 deadmatch and allso theuniversal

um.. what does that have to do with this topic?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:47 am
by Bipper
fhko wrote:Actually I figured it out again...now I can't get rid of the white border. Curse these limited graphics programs.

I'll be free to do random crud like this in a couple weeks. Stay tuned for developments.
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can somebody tell me what this error means and how do i get around it:
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im trying to make a chinese pagoda tower but i cant unfold it to texture it because i get this error, here is a picture of it so far:

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im kind of a newb at texturing/modelling so pls help

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:33 pm
by flametard
that model looks awesome so far!!! i hope you figure how how to uvmap!!

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:18 pm
by fhko
*Sigh* Why do I do this to myself?

Alright guys. First poster get's any model he can think of that's within my abilities.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:07 pm
by Baladin
A monkey in a banana shaped space ship, just so i can replace the old galaxy cruiser. Please please please!

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:16 am
by zaroba
if you can't/wont make bal's, then how about the Statue of Liberty?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:37 pm
by fhko
Baladin wrote:A monkey in a banana shaped space ship, just so i can replace the old galaxy cruiser. Please please please!
:roll:

Perhaps I should'nt of said "any mode you can think of", but I'll do it anyway.

I think I already have some cool ideas for it anyhow. Mind if it's just a banana shaped space ship? Interiors are a pain in the rear to model and you wouldn't really see it much anyhow.

No promises on a convenient time frame, I do have other stuff do to. I do like modeling for you guys though.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:06 am
by fhko
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This something like what you had in mind Bal?