Gyruss V2

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:22 am

Well I stoped work on V1 and consentrated fully on V2 and better Bdat...

so far here are the current renders of the models (made by a freand):
Airport

Anamal Farm

Different Shops

Grain Silo

Logging Farm

Saw Mill

School

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:29 am

Nice work

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:33 am

now you see why I was holding out on the model pack zar... lol

these are around 72k in size

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:04 am

wow, nice models. they look high poly too.

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:08 am

btw if your wondering why everything is on stilts

You don't atualy see them... they are there if the land is un even and you see these stilts to the ground insted of the thing floting in mid air

And they an't that bad polly count eather zar.. I have one on gyruss in scotland... yes the texture is fecked up but still take a look.

Post by **Mit** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:30 am

oooohh :] Fooli & hedge have some competition

hedgehog · Post by **hedgehog** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:40 am

they're low poly enuf to be workable... except for the multi-textured, 8bit alpha part

(i'm pretty sure i'm far too lazy for there to ever be any contest should we get a real skinner around

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Post by **Mit** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:43 am

ah. thought they were too good to be true.. :]
Multi-texturing in the sense of having more than one per model or multi-texturing in the sense of actually overlaying more than one texture in the render (they don't look they're doin anythin like that really..)

I believe there are max tools about that can take a model referencing multiple textures and combine em into a single newly created bmp at the click of a button. Wouldnt know where to look for that but im sure there is one..

hedgehog · Post by **hedgehog** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:02 am

yeh the former. i think he's tryin to sort it... the alpha on the trees would be tricky tho..spose he could always just get all the gyruss folks to enable 32bit... iirc i *think* that works...sorta

that school texture could use more zazz if you ask me...then again if it was me it'd probably have weird computers and wires and blackshet all over. so there's that. :]

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:20 pm

thinking I am going to put a bell on it now... and/or some overflowing bins

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:50 pm

I can't find that texture murge thing anywhere is driving me mad :/

Mattizme · Post by **Mattizme** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:34 pm

Wow, them models are nice.

Once Tractor gets to the graphical stage of Tropico or similar, I will fall to my knees and weep with joy.

*sniff*

One note about the airport, make sure you have a clearly marked runway seperate from the one on there - landing could be amusing.

Post by **Fooli** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:36 pm

It's not something I've ever needed to do, but I think you should be looking for "texture baking" or "texture burning" tutorials/plug-ins etc. Later versions of Max support baking via the "render to texture" function - mine doesn't. It's not all that straightforward, from the brief glance I had at the process - if I understand correctly, you have to convert the uvw coordinates of all the items in the scene to match the newly burned texture.

There's also the danger that the final baked texture will be so huge no gfx card can handle it - or, conversely, have to be scaled down so small you lose all the texture detail. Will be interesting to see the results...

Were the models, or the renders, made by a friend? Just to re-emphasise a point I made a few weeks back... if these are commercial models for which you've bought a license, are you absolutely sure you're not breaking license agreements by redistributing them through the game?
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leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:49 pm

no patents and totaly licance free... baught his cd collection for a tenner

Mattizme · Post by **Mattizme** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:58 pm

Does your friend play tractor, and/or make models often? Can we convince him to? :]

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:00 pm

nope hes gone to uni to lurn computer sciance...

Good luck convincing him

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:35 pm

the stilts are a nice idea, might do something like for the models i'm making.
was it easy to scale them for use in-game so they weren't too low/high?

leigon · Post by **leigon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:20 pm

an't resised the stills yet...

Can't fix the dam texture maps... I spent 2 hours fixing stuff and on the uv mapper, I got it done and it wouldent let me save >_<

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:37 pm

eww, lol.

after getting it mapped, you'll probably need to just flip the texture vertically so it fits right (its somehting associated with atm conversion....mit?)

main problem i can see with those models is that you'd have to set and scale them in an editor before converting them. since the convertor can't move the models around (atleast not the one i have), and if moved right in an editor, then rescaling could push more of the model under the ground line. then again, i could be wrong

Post by **Fooli** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:56 pm

er... u may well be wrong, zar :) Ideally you'd want to scale and position the models in Max first (I assume that's the native format Leigon's working with) but even if you're playing with .x or .3ds files, the 1.3 converter (1.2 as well, mebbe other versions) lets you move and scale a model fairly accurately.

Hedge has been clamouring for stilted models for a while, now, to get around the sticky-up building thing in-game. Personally i just prefer to flatten the landscape under each building - does that stuff still work ok?

The main problem I see with building stilts (or otherwise extending the "base" of your building) is that it pretty much ties a model to the map it was created for, and the position it was created to go in. You could just use a generic stilt length, but then... all your buildings would still be stuck up in the air at different heights, only on stilts instead of the ground ;)
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