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Battlezone - Bugs and opinions

Post by VDZ »

Battlezone rules.
But, like any other new server, it has some things that ruins the fun a bit.
Let's start with a few bugs i found.

Your Steel <> Starter Steel
You start with Steel. If you make a Steel Refinery, and you get steel, it does not add up to your current steel.
Instead, it creates a different pile for "your" steel.
This normally wouldn't be so bad, but when building things, the game counts the amount of steel in the first pile (which is 30 then).
It does not count the other steel, so you cannot build a building and have to discard the steel. Pity.

Guns not harming buildings
I don't know if this really is a bug, but guns do not damage buildings. This means you have to have a teammate in order to get weapons to destroy buildings to get points.

Flag?
There's a flag on the starport, but it can't be picked up.


Now....opinions (also called 'whining')

Teammate required for Bombs and Grenades!
This makes the game unwinnable without a teammate and gives the opponent a huge advantage if he has a teammate and you don't.
You see, weapons are the only things requiring steel.
On BattleZone, you cannot stock your own building.
Which means, your teammate has to. If you don't have a teammate, there's no weapons, there's no building destruction, and there's no points.

Six buildings?
I personally think that 6 buildings is a little bit crappy, especially when you're the only player in a team.

5 vs 2, yay.
This happened to me today. Everybody joined Gamma, so Vitaly and me had to play against 5 other players....which is a bit unfair.
Is it possible to force the players to balance the teams a bit?

Indestructable Steel Factories.
I see no reason why it shouldn't be able to be destroyed.

Game time.
The game starts at exactly X.35. (Where X is the hour. Example: 15.35.)
Could it be possible to make it start exactly at X.00 and end at (X + 1).00? It would be convient.
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Post by 252-rer »

lol i like the steel invincible as it at lest makes the team have a chance no mater what happens:P
but another bug
i noticed a very cheap player who kept shooting at the town pillar where we respawned with his unlimited ammo gun and we died instantly and respawned to die again. This proccess repeated untill he left after like 10 min.
this was very very cheap:(
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Post by Fooli »

Very cheap, yes. More than one name comes to mind (cough).

Mit'll fix up some safe zones soon.
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Post by Mit »

Your Steel <> Starter Steel
will be fixed in a lil patch ill put up lata today.

Guns not harming buildings
Is intentional. (As it says on the Shift + f5 docs - only grenades and bombs harm buildings.) Having an infinite ammo weapon that can destroy buildings would defeat the point of having to build resurce factories etc. The requirement for a teammate to build weapons facs wont be needed when the steel bug above is fixed.

Indestructable Steel Factories.
As 252 says, this helps ensure no team is ever stuck without some sort of production ability. Ill change this today however, make em destructable again, and have the town plinth produce a minimal amount of steel for a slightly higher invest.

Game Time
Good point :) It starts then just coz that happened to be the time i turned the server on. I'll reset it to the hour later today.

Safezones - aye, today.
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Post by puggy »

Wasn't on the world yesterday or 2day, but did you fix the new vech's having the same damage as the old ones before they were blown up?

Also could you make players invincible for 10-20 sec's after respawning, would prevent the opertunistic players at spawn sites?
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Post by Mit »

safe zones covers the spawn killers problem. If you're on the tiles surrounding a town you cannot fire weapons or take damage.

will check the damage on vehs thing today.
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Post by hedgehog »

guess it's a good idea to build yer buildings there then ..eh?..EH? ;)
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Post by VDZ »

Not possible.
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Post by Mit »

safe zone only applies to players
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Post by VDZ »

I think he's aiming at the not-allowed-to-fire-in-safe-zones rule.
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Post by hedgehog »

yeh, compounded by the problem where you can't restrict the surface from being built on since that's two properties and just one surface.

if you closed the town from allowing buildings and make the radius approximately the safezone, then that might do if the players can sort out that they need to leave town to build. praps some kind of sign or change in terrain or something illustrative of the fact might do.
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zaroba wrote:but then you'd need buildings built anywhere and then the town residency to build would be completly eliminated.
yeh, you'd need to do somethin like building access 8 instead. but then you wouldn't have the nice lil selection menu till team selection mode 9 is out (hopefully in 1.33)
also, even if you could build buildings in the safe zone and coulden't fire weps in it, thiers nothing to stop you from going right outside the safe zone and shooting into the zone to hit the buildings and damage them. so don't really need to worry about keeping the buildings off the safezone anyway.
i s'pose if it's not very large, sure, but the problem being that the most efficient building-destroyers are planes dropping bombs, which generally have to be pretty close to right over a given building.

although, if you up the building distance to say, 2, and have a safezone of 9 tiles (1 deep surrounding the town), then that'd sort it well enough.
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Post by VDZ »

BattleZone is good as it is right now (except it could use some ornamentals :] )
Anyways, a new bug; we still don't get Kudos. Tested on 0.1.32a.
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Post by zaroba »

*me flogs whoever.

looks like somebody accidently used Edit instead of Quote on my post up thier :P
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Post by hedgehog »

zaroba wrote:*me flogs whoever.

looks like somebody accidently used Edit instead of Quote on my post up thier :P
d'oh! :oops:

it was late...the buttons are close together :oops: 8) :oops:
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heh, i do that plenty of times too.
then realise it after wondering where the Quotes are :P
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Name: Weird Scores
Date/Time: 13-10-04, 21:35
Bug Short Description: Delta was on the final score list twice (with as scores 6 and 4),
Beta was not on the list (I scored a point in the last minute) and the last line said
Kudos Awarded to Delta team: (nothing)
Seems no player played Delta at all.
Steps To Recreate: I have no idea.
Attachments/Notes: I didn't get my Kudos :(

Name: Misspelling :P
Date/Time: 13-10-04, 20:35 - 21:35
Bug Short Description: Currently is spelled as current on the build menu (You current have X steel).
Steps To Recreate: Press Control three times.
Attachments/Notes: Uhhh....*thinks* *head explodes*
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Post by Kirby »

Bug: Destroying your own buildings gives points to your own team

Might wanna fix that before someone puts it to bad use. :wink:
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