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Pandora Down

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My internet is being fussy as always. But, I was able to get to Xebec and Aramathea. I have tried multiple times with Pandora but keep seeing the no connection above the planet.
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no ping for me either
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It's back up now. It had an illegal op.
Somebody was on it at the time so don't know if it was related to a script running.
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Didn't get a chance to get on Saturday. Today Pandora is down. The people will revolt if thee is no food Zaroba. :P
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It will likely be down for a while this time.

The hard drive crashed last night.
Doing the click of death during boot up and then windows doesn't detect it.

Got a bunch of old drives lying around, it is just a matter of finding one that works and then trying to get the stuff off the bad drive via usb dock. It will be delayed a bit since today was the start of my work week.
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Replacement hard drive is in the pc now it's just a matter of getting the data off the old drive.

Put in the USB dock and I could hear the motor whirring and it was clicking away, no luck. I'm assuming the motor is failing so it's in the freezer for an hour or so to see if that helps.
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Ewww, That is definitely not fun. I had a bad hard drive tried to revive it and took out an old PC in my attempt. Luckily the PC wasn't much of a loss.

Good Luck getting things up and running Zaroba.
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had it in the freezer for about two hours last night. When I took it out and tried to use it the clicking was actually much louder until it warmed back up to room temperature. Just tried it now after letting it sit on my desk all day and still no luck.

Spins up, clicks 11 times, then basically shuts off completely. Tried turning the power off and back on again hoping to get it to spin better or actually start working but no luck. It sounds like a bad computer fan when it's spinning so I'm assuming one of the bearings on the platter motor is shot.


As far as I can tell, the drive is a complete loss, and I had no backups.
*All* my TU stuff was on that drive. So Zoric and Pandora are a complete loss and will have to be recreated from scratch unless I can somehow get it working.

Pandora isn't such an issue, that used an old sabrada setup which I might still have on tuwr or on a much older IDE drive sitting in the closet somewhere.

As for zoric, all the scripts will have to be remade from scratch. I was planning on doing this eventually anyway, but much further down the line after fixing all the bugs and getting it working as intended. At least now I know how to do a lot of the things it had so it will mostly just be a matter of retyping them all. Luckily all the models and textures are on tuwr so I wont have to redo them.




On a side note, while messing about with my PC and changing the bad drive last night, I pulled too hard on a wire and broke the [censored] sata power connection on the boot drive. Broke the plastic tab right off and it's stuck in the power cord. Was still able to get it to work by *very* carefully pushing the metal tabs into the plug though.

I already have an SSD drive that I was planning to use as a boot drive when this one failed, so this weekend I might change that and will put the TU stuff on there.
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ooo, I was just pawing threw my closet trying to find the power cord for my IDE -> USB dock and I found another sata hard drive that looked somewhat new. Wondering what was on it, I put it in the sata dock and found it was the drive I had prior to the one that went bad.

Not too old either, all the stuff on it is from late 2012!

It doesn't have Pandora, but it has the stuff I made Pandora from. It also doesn't have zoric's scripts on it, but it *does* have all the planning I had done prior to starting the scripts which will make remaking them much easier.
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Sad to hear

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Sorry to hear about your bad luck, with the drives, i have had similiar probs, ok excuse my ignorance. a thing i have never tried is take the hard disc out the unit and try to put it in another unit would this work or am i just beeing stupid just a thought.
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I have read about doing stuff similar to that, but it is *very* difficult and people normally have a very high failure rate rendering the bad drive and replacement completely lost.
Usually people swap the drive heads, not the platters themselves.

With the drive heads, the slightest contact with each other will ruin them. As for the platters, those are harder. The slightest smudge or speck of dirt will render that area unusable. Plus, if they aren't positioned correctly, then the drive heads wont be able to read them. When a hard drive is spinning, the distance between the heads and platters is fractions of the thickness of a human hair, they don't actually make the platters and doing so would damage the platters or heads. So if the platters aren't installed perfectly correctly in a different drive, then they wont be in the proper place for the heads in the new drive. Even a piece of dust could get caught between the head and platter causing damage, or the oil from a fingerprint.

There are companies that do these sort of repairs, but it costs thousands of dollars and the whole process is done in a clean-room environment.
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thanks

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Thanks for that very descriptive reply, but iff it was me ,iff that was the last resort i would try it, as there is nothing to lose, iff knowing you have lost all that data it cant do any harm but to try it just wear the surgical gloves and go for it nothing to lose.
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Would end up loosing the replacement drive if it failed. lol

But actually, something did come to mind. I have a variable speed Dremel that goes up to 30k rpm. I could try taking the top cover off the drive and somehow using the Dremel to attempt to spin the platters at around 7200 rpm and see if I can get stuff off it.
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