The Universal on Wikipedia

VDZ · Post by **VDZ** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:49 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universal
The article is tagged with notability and lack of sources infoboxes.
I've seen this before. When an article has these boxes for a while and the problem isn't solved, the article will be deleted.
Please help by finding third-party sources.

Rikku · Post by **Rikku** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:50 pm

OK

Von Stnk · Post by **Von Stnk** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:54 am

thats pimp

kb32a · Post by **kb32a** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:08 am

Er...Not really actually.

VDZ · Post by **VDZ** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:16 pm

It's been nominated for deletion...damned deletionist bastards :'(
I have copied the contents of the page to the UniversalWiki (http://editthis.info/universalwiki/The_Universal), however the Infobox CVG doesn't work on the UniversalWiki.

Midnight · Post by **Midnight** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:16 pm

VDZ wrote:It's been nominated for deletion...damned deletionist bastards :'(
I have copied the contents of the page to the UniversalWiki (http://editthis.info/universalwiki/The_Universal), however the Infobox CVG doesn't work on the UniversalWiki.

I have voted as KEEP

VDZ · Post by **VDZ** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:20 pm

It's not a vote like 'if most people vote for keep, it will stay'. Unless you have independant sources (which your link isn't - it's about a different game), it won't help.

wes773 · Post by **wes773** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:41 pm

maybe a few people could make their own sites and make independent sources.

kb32a · Post by **kb32a** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:59 pm

If the TU wiki gets deleted, I'm going to edit Andrew Lenahan's and Darksaber's wiki pages over and over and over and over... very badly.

...Maybe not, but who cares about some song anyway. The wiki is one of the more informational sites about TU. Why the hell do some people care so much about deleting such a random article.

Post by **Fooli** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:04 am

As we're an independent game that no-one's really heard of or written about, I don't see how you can avoid being deleted because of wiki's notability regulations. The thing I'd stress is, if it ain't on wikipedia itself, so what. The content is what matters, so there's nothing wrong with maintaining an independent wiki about the game, if that's what people want to do. The content on there at the moment isn't exactly comprehensive... but nowhere has all the information, except maybe mit's head, so that's understandable. Regardless, if people feel it's helpful, just keep using wiki as a format and a content organisation tool, rather than worrying about being on the 'pedia thing itself, I reckon.

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zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:09 am

if it gets deleted, just readd it

over and over

apparently the wikipedia HAS brought some members into the community, so its an obvious benefit.

VDZ · Post by **VDZ** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:38 am

Fan sites are not allowed as sources for a Wikipedia article. Otherwise, TUWR and UniversalWiki would be enough to allow the article to stay.

Please don't vandalize pages or keep recreating a page on Wikipedia - it won't help. You'll only get yourself banned.

The problem is, Wikipedia's rules are very strict. According to the rules on Wikipedia, The Universal isn't notable enough to have an article. However, if we do have some independant, reliable sources, the article can stay on Wikipedia.

Jayecifer · Post by **Jayecifer** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:56 am

TU was in PC magazine, might they have the article somewhere online?

zaroba · Post by **zaroba** » Fri May 25, 2007 1:04 pm

notable? lol

the rules on the wiki seem more oriented for things like books, locations, people, etc and other info that would need to be known in real life, not things like internet games. i'm pretty sure the site was origionally designed as an online encyclipedia not anticipating things like pc games, and thus the rules reflect this. an encyclepedia woulden't list games, it'd list true and accurate info about real life objects and events.
thus said, the tons of games on the site would technically be in violation.

theres also the fact that the people nominating it for deletion appear to just be normal visitors like us, not admins that could ban us. hell, they could even be people that had a bad experience in the game and are taking there anger out there instead of posting and trying to solve there problems here.

VDZ · Post by **VDZ** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:46 pm

zaroba wrote:theres also the fact that the people nominating it for deletion appear to just be normal visitors like us, not admins that could ban us. hell, they could even be people that had a bad experience in the game and are taking there anger out there instead of posting and trying to solve there problems here.

Yes. That's why it's nominating for deletion. A regular user nominates it for deletion, and states why it should be deleted (in this case, because it isn't notable and doesn't have reliable, independant sources). After a week or so, an admin checks it out, sees that the article should be deleted according to the rules, and deletes the article.

keira47 · Post by **keira47** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:07 pm

Has anyone considered speaking to the admin on Wiki to explain the situation. I'm sure they could be reasoned with.

Jayecifer · Post by **Jayecifer** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:03 pm

WTF is notability!?!

Jayecifer · Post by **Jayecifer** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:38 pm

I contacted a few space related website and explained our situation and a little bit about TU. Now we wait for their response, possible articles, and maybe even an influx of new players.

fhko · Post by **fhko** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:13 pm

What sort of space related websites?...Space game websites or forums of stargazers...

Jayecifer · Post by **Jayecifer** » Sat May 26, 2007 2:21 am

http://www.solarvoyager.com

and

http://www.iaaa.org/

It's not much, but at least I'm doing something.