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it deserves to die. I was enjoying the 'space trade' thread too :(
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BGGRRRIITT!

Magic (or Mit), when you get the chance can you readmit me to the writers group and give me back edit priveliges please?

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hmmm i dont mind mysql just dont like webhosts :)

you should be still active for the writers group... is it not working?
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as I was one of the 300 who'se details were deleted, assumed I'd have to rejoin the group

links reappeared about 10 mins after I posted. thought one either yourself or Mit had fixed it. :D

also received the "you've been added...." email again. (and one for the beta group - not sure how that happened.)
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ah right i reckon mit was adding then :)
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Why don't you get a better forum softwere.... like vBulliten.
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Freako wrote:well this just goes to show that you need to do weekly backups and optimise your db every other day :-P

just my 2 very annoting cents.
dont know if youve ever managed a site with just over 11k regustererd users but doing a backup via mysql + server timeouts and excessive loads is no mean feat the end backup file is just over 37mbs at this current time.

also physically having time to take up all the system resources on my machine and network is not always feasible, therefore i have to wait until the office is relatively empty at work :)

as it is it was relatively lucky i was in the office today and hadnt taken a lunch break and that i was in the right place with the right file and the 1.5 hours it took to restore the db.
leigon wrote:Why don't you get a better forum softwere.... like vBulliten.
not quite sure how that is going to help leig it wasnt phpbb that crashed it was the webserver, plus (without starting a flame war) my personal opinion is that phpbb is still the best forum software about, and without it many of the functions this site uses wouldnt be possible without multiple logins to various areas. As it is a single login now operates the entire site both from an end user and a admin perspective.
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While i'll leave the techie argument to our techies, all i'd add is that - having just found out how much it costs us to run this site each month - you should all be glad you get to play and take advantage of the site features for nothing, that magic & others maintain it for nothing, and that it all works at all given that we're just a big bunch of useless monkeys.

Yay for mySQL - we've found something even more broken than the game :)

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*snigger*
shouldnt you be getting excited about your holiday or somethin :)
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oh and something about 'gorgeous' and 'lovely' that clare told me not to mention
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um, i'm sposed to be gettin excited about being lovely and that? or excited cos I am lovely and gorgeous? I dunno, i wasn't eavesdropping like u obviously were :)

Feck knows. Last time I agree to anything, this is.

Oh hang on, i didn't :)

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well, as far as I'm concerned - thanks to Magic for getting it fixed so quickly! - OK - so some of us have had to re-register and lost a few forum posts, but at the end of the day, its a frustration not a disaster.

I think I said to mit a few days ago, I've had to pay for tech support in the past that hasn't been either as effective or as swift as what we get on TU.

Well done guys, 'bout time you got a bit of credit for your efforts!

Mit / Fooli - whats all this about gorgeous and lovely - you both look like a couple of monkeys to me!
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heh. It's what comes of our respective partners being friends, talking about us, and someone listening in. And then, mostly in mit's case, someone stirring as vigorously as possible :)

I admit I look a bit like a monkey. But yes, it's true: Mit does look like a couple of monkeys. He really needs to exercise more...

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Magicfinger wrote:
Freako wrote:well this just goes to show that you need to do weekly backups and optimise your db every other day :-P

just my 2 very annoting cents.
dont know if youve ever managed a site with just over 11k regustererd users but doing a backup via mysql + server timeouts and excessive loads is no mean feat the end backup file is just over 37mbs at this current time.

also physically having time to take up all the system resources on my machine and network is not always feasible, therefore i have to wait until the office is relatively empty at work :)

as it is it was relatively lucky i was in the office today and hadnt taken a lunch break and that i was in the right place with the right file and the 1.5 hours it took to restore the db.

He is right leig, PhpBB is very good, easy template system, and the login system is portable. vBulliten is powerful but complicated and its not open sourced(last i checked).
leigon wrote:Why don't you get a better forum softwere.... like vBulliten.
not quite sure how that is going to help leig it wasnt phpbb that crashed it was the webserver, plus (without starting a flame war) my personal opinion is that phpbb is still the best forum software about, and without it many of the functions this site uses wouldnt be possible without multiple logins to various areas. As it is a single login now operates the entire site both from an end user and a admin perspective.
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wtf?? stupid quotes and it didnt even print what I typed lol.
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Magicfinger wrote: dont know if youve ever managed a site with just over 11k regustererd users but doing a backup via mysql + server timeouts and excessive loads is no mean feat the end backup file is just over 37mbs at this current time.

also physically having time to take up all the system resources on my machine and network is not always feasible, therefore i have to wait until the office is relatively empty at work :)

as it is it was relatively lucky i was in the office today and hadnt taken a lunch break and that i was in the right place with the right file and the 1.5 hours it took to restore the db.
37mbs isn't much, what spec is the machine thats it's on? Ok, on the mysql side of things i've never dealt with that size, but on the ms sql i've got a 132mb backup and it's realativly quick to backup and restore on a cel 2.4, 1gig ram
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leigon wrote:Why don't you get a better forum softwere.... like vBulliten.
not quite sure how that is going to help leig it wasnt phpbb that crashed it was the webserver, plus (without starting a flame war) my personal opinion is that phpbb is still the best forum software about, and without it many of the functions this site uses wouldnt be possible without multiple logins to various areas. As it is a single login now operates the entire site both from an end user and a admin perspective.
Why are people so smitten with vB? Don't you have to pay for a yearly license (as seen on webhosttalk with people trying to sell them) for a forum that you can get just as good, if not better for free?
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no idea what machine its sitting on puggy its on the webhost pass beyond that anyway will be looking at 48 hour backups from monday so if disaster strikes again then it wont be too bad :)
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puggy wrote:
Magicfinger wrote: dont know if youve ever managed a site with just over 11k regustererd users but doing a backup via mysql + server timeouts and excessive loads is no mean feat the end backup file is just over 37mbs at this current time.

also physically having time to take up all the system resources on my machine and network is not always feasible, therefore i have to wait until the office is relatively empty at work :)

as it is it was relatively lucky i was in the office today and hadnt taken a lunch break and that i was in the right place with the right file and the 1.5 hours it took to restore the db.
37mbs isn't much, what spec is the machine thats it's on? Ok, on the mysql side of things i've never dealt with that size, but on the ms sql i've got a 132mb backup and it's realativly quick to backup and restore on a cel 2.4, 1gig ram
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leigon wrote:Why don't you get a better forum softwere.... like vBulliten.
not quite sure how that is going to help leig it wasnt phpbb that crashed it was the webserver, plus (without starting a flame war) my personal opinion is that phpbb is still the best forum software about, and without it many of the functions this site uses wouldnt be possible without multiple logins to various areas. As it is a single login now operates the entire site both from an end user and a admin perspective.
Why are people so smitten with vB? Don't you have to pay for a yearly license (as seen on webhosttalk with people trying to sell them) for a forum that you can get just as good, if not better for free?
I once had a MySQL DB at 185MB's but it was all from a Robots.txt search script. Hours Spent Indexing http://www.historychannel.com ----> 1d 21 hrs 43 mins 0_0
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